IGO freeze after standby and how to use maps from various lo   

IGO freeze after standby and how to use maps from various lo

Postby ljuba011 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:13 am

Hope that some guru will find an answer to my long-standing problem ;)

Device is Mio moov 330, on which I installed Igo Primo 2.0, instead of default Miomap. Simplest possible installation in which I directed mioautorun file to load primo instead of default software. It works without hesitation. Internal memory of device is 1 GB and, as you are aware, definitely not enough if you want to use all benefits Primo can offer. So I combined available resources and installed program on internal memory and content on sd card. Here is sys.txt

folders]
has_secondary_root=0
app="\My Flash Disk\Program Files\Primo"
data="\My Flash Disk\Program Files\Primo"
content="\Storage Card\Primo\content"

For sometime I get problem that device will freeze after standby and therefore has to be restarted. Restarting, of course, need some time to lock satellites and if you find yourself driving in non-familiar city than you will get annoying in waiting for direction where to go ....

I tried to get rid of this problem, and by reading this and other forums, acknowledged that problem could be related to Igo executable file - the way it manage sd card. Meaning that waking up from standby (pressing button on from off - not using restart), Igo momentarily ask sd card for data, but sd card needs some second or two to be ready and prepared and that mistiming is leading to sometimes freezing or soft restarting of device (which is better option, since the satellite lock are much faster).

I played with various options and found that if I use only one or two map files (including related pois and 3dc, 3dl for those particular countries, just not to forget that nasa dem files is there, too), device will not restart nor freeze after standby. Everything run smooth and no problem at all. But if you put 5 or more maps that's where the problem is starting again. Conclusion is that it has to be related to memory and/or sd card reading timeout.

Now, I try to figure if it will work if I combine map files from 2 sources. Meaning that I put map file of the country where I live and dem file into internal memory, and other files to sd card - to see what will happen.

Question are:

1. What is command line in sys.txt to allow igo to use map files from 2 location (both from internal memory and external sd card)

2. In described problem, is there any known solution which I somehow missed?

Thanks in advance


PS. Same thing is with Igo 8.3
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Postby chas521 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:05 pm

AFAIK, there is no command to use either content from the internal drive or from the SD card. It's an either/or situation. You might have seen this in your travels. When the device is put into a sleep situation it loses all contact with the SD card. Therefore, it has to re-establish that contact with the SD card when woken up [program, contents, whatever] and that takes time. That's just the way it is.
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Postby Fatboyfun » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:32 pm

You can remove maps from the original application to make room, also miopocket is a little on the large side for an unlock.
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Postby ljuba011 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:17 pm

You can set in sys.txt where are the location of your files (maps, data etc). And it has to be an options to use more than one location, i'm quite sure, but unfortunately don't know how to do it.

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Yes, I already deleted all map data from original software, and made space as much as possible. Mio moov has 1Gb internal memory and I have made 99% available. And yes, I used miopocket previosly, but unlock which I am using right now is even better in terms of available memory (just simple modifying of device autorun file).

Thanks for your help anyway
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Postby chas521 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:55 pm

I don't think so. You can set the map location in the internal or the SD card in the sys.txt but you can't switch the location you want to use while in the program.
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Postby Fatboyfun » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:06 pm

With regards to the content in Primo, it's all on the sd card or nothing on the sd card, the reason why it freezes (or reboots) is because the card reader takes a second or two to be available after the system starts, with just one map igo may not want to access it straight away after waking up, other content may be different.
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Postby ljuba011 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:18 am

@chas521
I was not thinking about switching while in the program. Idea was to keep map on two location (internal memory and sd card) and to direct Primo during starting to load both location. This should be possible within sys.txt. And to try to see will it freeze again. Idea is to put map of the country where I am actually, and maybe neighboring country as well, into device memory, and other maps on sd card.

@fatboyfun
That exactly what the idea is. Since I have Primo on internal memory with empty content and sd card with full content I was trying to set content folders to both and to put some maps in one and other in another folder. I wrote:

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content="\My Flash Disk\Program Files\Primo\content"
content="\Storage Card\Primo\content"

but Primo was reading only first one. Checked with the list of maps loaded.

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Postby chas521 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:06 pm

Of course you can put the maps into different locations for space sake. But you missed my point. The device's memory cannot handle having all the sets of maps available from different places. They just aren't that smart. It's obvious that you have a grasp of nav programs but there is only so much that you can do. This is also why error messages start to happen when too much content is being asked to load when the program is starting. Everyone has to have a little common sense when trying to install a nav.
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Postby Yurbuh Tuggly » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:22 pm

ljuba011 wrote:direct Primo during starting to load both location. This [color="#FF0000"]should be possible within sys.txt[/color].


Actually, it's not.
You can have all maps in another location, yes. But there is absolutely no way to tell Primo/iGo/or any other NAV program to "get this map from this storage drive, but get that map from that storage drive". A Map Changer utility can change folders, but it's not automatic at all.
But that's just my opinion..I could be wrong.
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Postby Fatboyfun » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:38 pm

I'm sure I can write a little script to tell primo to use maps from different locations on start up, ie...

Start primo
Dialogue box asks whether to use maps from EITHER internal memory OR sd card (not both)
User chooses
Some behind the scenes magic happens
Primo starts with selected maps

Or it could be a separate application...
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Postby ljuba011 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:02 pm

Got the point - no way Primo or Igo can load maps from different locations (without using map changer). Common sense is concluding that best way is to use maps that you really need or else - buy better device :naughty:

What I will try is to put all the maps into device memory, and rest of content to sd card. Hope that sys.txt will work, if under section folders is following command:

has_secondary_root=0
maps="\My Flash Disk\Program Files\Primo\map"
app="\My Flash Disk\Program Files\Primo"
data="\My Flash Disk\Program Files\Primo"
content="\Storage Card\Primo\content"
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Postby Fatboyfun » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:15 pm

I'm sure this came up before and In primo only the content line within sys.txt works, could be wrong though.
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Postby ljuba011 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:33 pm

Maybe something else except content line will work. There are other examples explaining sys txt and you can find something like this:

maps="..\..\iGO8\content\map"
buildings="..\..\iGO8\content\building"
dem="..\..\iGO8\content\dem"
poi="..\..\iGO8\content\poi"
voice="..\..\iGO8\content\voice"
lang="..\..\iGO8\content\lang"
etc

but, however, my idea was definitely not going anywhere. What I was trying did not work - just tried. What about other ideas?


Fatboyfun wrote:I'm sure I can write a little script to tell primo to use maps from different locations on start up, ie...

Start primo
Dialogue box asks whether to use maps from EITHER internal memory OR sd card (not both)
User chooses
Some behind the scenes magic happens
Primo starts with selected maps


Come back to your suggestion as quoted, so if you want to be Good Samaritan, please kindly do - I'll give it a try
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Postby Fatboyfun » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:51 pm

I'll try and sort something for later...
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Postby bigbear333 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:28 pm

ljuba011 wrote:For sometime I get problem that device will freeze after standby and therefore has to be restarted. Restarting, of course, need some time to lock satellites and if you find yourself driving in non-familiar city than you will get annoying in waiting for direction where to go ....

I had same problem.I removed any other skin(dimka,gjak,zozo,etc.) and now i use default skin without
any problem.The device mio moov 580 don't freeze anymore after standby.I think it's smth.about memory
(mine is 64MB).
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