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Postby rodanny » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:49 pm

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Postby finding » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:03 am

I can't further the tech part of the discussion but...

If I understand right, rodanny is asking if there's a way to download current traffic events from the Internet (Igo's connected Online Traffic, for example?) and use that for navigating offline. If you think in terms of construction delays rather than accidents, time-shifting traffic information for offline use could be useful. Even accident information could be useful for very short trips.
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Postby nabi » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:46 am

Isn't that what TMC does at real time?
Or the intention must be about countries where no TMC is available?
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Postby finding » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:38 pm

I don't know rodanny's situation (I'm not even 100% I understand what he wants). You're right nabi, TMC can give real time traffic information but it isn't available in all countries, it isn't free in all countries, and non-PNA TMC receivers are very difficult to find and buy now (outside of Germany & Eastern Europe.) And from the other posts here, TMC doesn't even work for some devices. :confused: Real time traffic information is so important you'd think by now there'd be a better way. :unknw_mini:
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Postby nabi » Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:30 pm

Off topic:
This thread proves how difficult it can be to fully understand ones intention, especially when there is a language barrier and things get lost in translation. More, the lack of sufficient information makes it difficult to answer adequately.

On topic.
I don't know the adequate answer. :( I have no information about TMC data and how to incorporate them in iGO/Primo.
The only way I can think of is:
1. set up a route on the device
2. search for traffic information on the internet
3. compare the route and the traffic data for resemblances
4. When there is a match:
either block the closed roads in iGO/Primo (I think - not sure - that Primo only blocks temporarily and iGO blocks definitively)
or set up an alternative route (short - quick - green - economical), it may be a better choice (and back to 2)
or re-route manual by using "via" points

I don't know any better. Sorry.
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Postby rodanny » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:30 pm

Hello,
Sorry...i don;t receive email form navitotal and i don;t know answer for my questions...

so...
In my contry (Romania) only few models GPS can acces TMC....but i find an site...where can view in real time info about traffic...
I want create personal page and parse site...and store message in database....and accesing over the net with my IGO primo, eventualy with passord ....
So.. i need information how can accesing http site...and how could be web page for reading data from IGO PRIMO 2.0
In some sys.ini i find a link http....but when try to accessing webpage...i recieve an error...
"servers[0].url="http://zippy.naviextras.com/services/tmclite/data/nng-igo-tmc-ip"
and
boot_service_address="http://zippy.naviextras.com/services/index/1"

What reprezint this line code....
Sorry for my poor english....
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Postby Fatboyfun » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:51 pm

I don't think anyone's ever done this before, so you'll be the first.
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Postby rodanny » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:32 pm

ok..
and is bad?

I need help from who have TMC...i don;t have TMC...i need file temporary file from primo....
Can help me anyone?
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Postby Fatboyfun » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:31 am

I don't think it stores it in a file, as it's live it probably just stores it in ram.
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Postby rodanny » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:38 am

ok..
but how could be web page?
What data contain?
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Postby nabi » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:15 pm

Dear Rodanny,

We understand you do not speak English, but I think nobody knows what you are trying to say in your last post.

I also think nobody can give you a satisfying answer. TMC data are live stream data. There is no file in any navigation program (as far as I am aware of) that stores TMC data, except COMport, baud, last frequency. TMC works and traffic data come in live,thus no need to store constant changing data.
No TMC = no data = no data file.

I gave a possible solution in post#10, bottom first page. See if you can do anything with that solution. If not, then I am sorry but I see no answer to your question as far as I understand it.
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Postby rodanny » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:43 pm

Sorry,
So..i try to write more corretly....

SO...
I find in sys.txt a link to web page....

"servers[0].url="http://zippy.naviextras.com/services/tmclite/data/nng-igo-tmc-ip"
and
boot_service_address="http://zippy.naviextras.com/services/index/1"

What is?
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Postby Fatboyfun » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:54 pm

That's where iGO gets it's live traffic information from, I'm guessing it'll in a propriety format.
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Postby rodanny » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:15 pm

yes...but what is the file structure from http link?

Waht represint booth line?
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Postby kamoteka » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:59 pm

Those sys.txt entries are used by Primo to get TMC data via the internet. So your device should have internet access in order to get TMC data from the address specified on the [servers.url] and [boot.service.address] entries on sys.txt. If I am not mistaken, you will need a subscription and a license to be able to get this TMC service via internet connection.

How the TMC data is pulled from the internet or in what format, only NNG knows, since that is supposed to be proprietary information.
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