Cannot Use this map: Western Europe_1GB - TomTom ONE XL   

Postby Razorblatter » Fri May 24, 2013 7:36 pm

By the way, I had another One 3rd Ed. in my hands today.
I put Downunder's 9.450 NC on it which looks neat but with Europe_1GB_South it only left me with 6Mb of spare storage space with GB's zip-codes removed.
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Postby tendriver » Sat May 25, 2013 12:54 am

Razorblatter wrote:By the way, I had another One 3rd Ed. in my hands today.
I put Downunder's 9.450 NC on it which looks neat but with Europe_1GB_South it only left me with 6Mb of spare storage space with GB's zip-codes removed.


Are you aware that 9.450 is an ASIAN navcore???
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Postby tendriver » Sat May 25, 2013 1:08 am

Razorblatter wrote: 1. although a .meta.dct was created the TT did not accept the map even though the map appeared to
be patched.
2. This was causing stress and a feeling of extreme disorientation, demotivation and distress
with the subject.
3. the device was intended for use on shortest term for Australian guests in the Netherland so I though it best to keep it a clean and straightforward as possible.
4. I did inform him about (especially) Downunder's modded NC's
5. Due to TT One 3rd Ed.'s limited storage of 1GB, one has little option in maps. Only 910_4852 for Europe regions.

6. The subject balonie2 appeared happy and content when he got a gps fix on this new map


1. Are you 100% certain??
2. I didn't see or read any signs of this in any of balonie2's posts.
3. The revelance is???
4. Thanx.
5. The revelance is???
6. I would expect this reaction from a inexperienced Noob!
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Postby balonie2 » Sat May 25, 2013 9:43 am

tendriver wrote:1. Are you 100% certain??
2. I didn't see or read any signs of this in any of balonie2's posts.
3. The revelance is???
4. Thanx.
5. The revelance is???
6. I would expect this reaction from a inexperienced Noob!

1. The Europe_West map was patched with FA, but when I opened the ttgo.bif file, it still said that there was no map (Map=[empty] and Map version = 0.0)
Probably, the problem was in my TT and not in the map itself.
2. I didn't put this in any of my posts because I wouldn't want to bother you with that. However, when talking with razorblatter privately, I did got frustrated that it didn't got fixed as fast as it should be.
3. No relevance, just extra information where Razorblatter explains why he did what he did.
4. -
5. He probably wanted to say that if I installed one of Downunder's modded NC's, I won't be able to do a lot extra, because I only have 1GB and those NC's were better for higher storages? (is what I heard, not sure though).
6. What? I was happy because it took longer than expected to repair my TT. I followed the steps in your threads but without success.

I would still like to thank everyone who put effort in helping me. Thanks for your time.
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Postby balonie2 » Sat May 25, 2013 9:46 am

tendriver wrote:2.Doing it this way left balonie2 with a 8.XXX navcore & old icons. The TT team strives to take our members to a higher level on their older 32MB units.

So I reinstalled it, but then I patched the NC with FA?
Does this still mean it is an older version than possible?
And what are the disadvantages of the 8.XXX Navcore and old icons?
Is there a fast way to update this, or is this unnecessary?
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Postby Razorblatter » Sat May 25, 2013 10:43 am

tendriver wrote:Are you aware that 9.450 is an ASIAN navcore???
Yes, I like to wok my routes with noodles but afterwards I remove the 16 MB Chinese.ttf.

I just thinks it adds a little spice..
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Postby Razorblatter » Sat May 25, 2013 11:02 am

tendriver wrote:2.Doing it this way left balonie2 with a 8.XXX navcore & old icons. The TT team strives to take our members to a higher level on their older 32MB units.

I think it is also the opinion of downunder that the official NC of a TT is the one best suited for it.
That original and pure NC is exactly what balonie2's got.
So no sour dish is being presented.

In the case of a 1 Gb device one has got very limited advantages with using 'higher' maps and about the only win in this situation would be refreshed icons...
The loss is over 50 MB precious storage space because of a grown NC and swap file.

One can use a small map and profit from a thing like ALG. Than it surely makes sense and I favour downunder's work.
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Postby Razorblatter » Sat May 25, 2013 11:14 am

Razorblatter wrote: - although a .meta.dct was created the TT did not accept the map even though the map appeared to
be patched. This was causing stress and a feeling of extreme disorientation, demotivation and distress within the subject.
...
The subject balonie2 appeared happy and content when he got a gps fix on this new map and I left him alone wishing him and his parent's guest happy days.

Of course these qualifications are meant to be taken with a big wink and a smile.

But every TT user is happy to see their device working after quite some hours of labour.
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Postby tendriver » Sun May 26, 2013 12:26 am

balonie2 wrote:1. The Europe_West map was patched with FA, but when I opened the ttgo.bif file, it still said that there was no map (Map=[empty] and Map version = 0.0)
Probably, the problem was in my TT and not in the map itself.
2. I didn't put this in any of my posts because I wouldn't want to bother you with that. However, when talking with razorblatter privately, I did got frustrated that it didn't got fixed as fast as it should be.
3. No relevance, just extra information where Razorblatter explains why he did what he did.
4. -
5. He probably wanted to say that if I installed one of Downunder's modded NC's, I won't be able to do a lot extra, because I only have 1GB and those NC's were better for higher storages? (is what I heard, not sure though).
6. What? I was happy because it took longer than expected to repair my TT. I followed the steps in your threads but without success.

I would still like to thank everyone who put effort in helping me. Thanks for your time.


1. That is the point I was making!!
2. We are here for no other purpose than to help our members, keeping it as stress free as possible. In the future don't hold back you angst!!!
3. No comment.
5. Incorrect.
6. Nope. As a noob, you were happy to get your unit up and running with an old navcore & old icons, not knowing that you could have the latest & greatest.

balonie2 wrote:So I reinstalled it, but then I patched the NC with FA?
1. Does this still mean it is an older version than possible?
2. And what are the disadvantages of the 8.XXX Navcore and old icons?
3. Is there a fast way to update this, or is this unnecessary?


1. There are 9.XXX navcores available for your unit.
2. You can't use some of the maps with advanced features that require a 9.XXX nc. No guarantee that a map will be available, due to having so many maps without meta codes.
3. As fast as you can download & install it.
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Postby tendriver » Sun May 26, 2013 2:06 am

Razorblatter wrote:1. I think it is also the opinion of downunder that the official NC of a TT is the one best suited for it.
That original and pure NC is exactly what balonie2's got.
So no sour dish is being presented.

2. In the case of a 1 Gb device one has got very limited advantages with using 'higher' maps and about the only win in this situation would be refreshed icons...
The loss is over 50 MB precious storage space because of a grown NC and swap file.

3. One can use a small map and profit from a thing like ALG. Than it surely makes sense and I favour downunder's work.


1. Downunder's quote, "The best Navcore is always what Home offers as latest official update! All other Navcores can work but there are no guarantees!"
As a disclaimer, he is merely saying the using the current official navcore for a device guarantees that all of the features for that device will function.
The majority of the time, the gains outweigh the losses, if there any losses.

2. I disagree.

3. All maps with ALG require NC 9.0XX or higher, except 910.4973, which requires 8.2XX or higher. There are only 11 910.4973 maps.

Razorblatter wrote:But every TT user is happy to see their device working after quite some hours of labour.


That happiness tends to disappear, when or if they find out that they can have the latest & greatest, but didn't get it.
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Postby Downunder35m » Sun May 26, 2013 3:21 am

Most of the 1GB devices can be "pimped" by adding a SD card internally, there must be a reason why I wrote a tut on that....
So, in reality, there is no need to seek small maps that fit on a limited device - unless you can't find anyone that could help you to solder a few tiny cables...
As for the swap and loosing memory or performance:
Most users are ignorant when it comes to accepting limits.
Instead of focussing on one or two voices they really use, they install whole collections.
Same story true for POI's... I agree that you often need additional POI's and that they can be helpful,
but everyone should use common sense and realise that everything showing up on the map screen needs to be processed too!
That means if the POI's are not unticked for showing on the map screen even a 64mb device will slow down to a crawl with late instructions and a map that jumps to next position every few seconds.

Seems I have to write another tut on the general procedures of installing a Navcore the right way :(
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