Running TomTom 7.910 on a generic Win CE 6 PNA - Memory Prob

No haven't tried 7.918.

Perhaps a dum question, but I've found some links for 7.450.9028 for windows mobile. I'm assuming that's for phones not PNAs and I need to find one for WinCE. Is that correct?

The 7.450 version i'm talking about is a "fixed" version which is already unpacked, it has a different splash screen to normal versions (Red Tomtom hands as opposed to a grey road), On first run it crashes but after that it's fine, Even after a hard reset. It's all over the web as a wince 4.2 fix, on wince 5 and 6 you don't need mortscript.

Fatboyfun wrote:The 7.450 version i'm talking about is a "fixed" version which is already unpacked, it has a different splash screen to normal versions (Red Tomtom hands as opposed to a grey road), On first run it crashes but after that it's fine, Even after a hard reset. It's all over the web as a wince 4.2 fix, on wince 5 and 6 you don't need mortscript.

I appreciate you can't post any links, but any chance you (or someone) could PM me a live link? I'm struggling to find the version referenced and keep downloading versions for Windows Mobile.

I apprecaite any help you can provide.

spillpot wrote:I appreciate you can't post any links, but any chance you (or someone) could PM me a live link? I'm struggling to find the version referenced and keep downloading versions for Windows Mobile.

I apprecaite any help you can provide.

Google, WinCE 4.2 fix.

As there's a few threads on this subject i'm going to write a guide later with links if someone can host the archive files for me. Maybe it could be a sticky thread.

I have written a tutorial with download links...

http://www.navitotal.com/forums/showthread.php?3016-How-to-install-Tomtom-7-on-dedicated-PNA-devices-with-Windows-CE-core-5-6

Thanks for taking the time to write your comprehensive guide Fatboyfun. Unfortuantely, having followed it to the letter, I still get theUnable to Start Not Enough Memory is Available error after activation of the map and TomTom refuses to load. I think this is something to do with WinCE6 and 128MB devices. Any ideas what to try next? I'm on the verge of giving up. iGo Primo is working and seems quite good!

Something in the WindowsCE core is causing Tomtom to crash, I would give up now, IMO iGO Primo is the next best option for your device although it can be tricky to get all features working, It's worth it as the visuals with DEM and Building files running is pure eye candy, Go to the iGO section for more info.

Im in the same boat spillpot !!

i've got a replacement SAT NAV/DVD unit for my car thats running win CE 6 and whatever i do i get "not enough memory" errors

i've tried the version that comes with the tutorial ( i think ) and it comes up in french when the map isn't there but when the map folder is moved in ( and successfully patched with my DEVICE ID ), i just get the error

If anyone have a working version of both the nav core software & a known UK map i'd love to know about it and if possible could you send the links to downloads via PM?

spillpot, if you get it working let me know will you, if i manage to crack it i'll post any instructions/fixes


Cheers

Russ

The fix for WinCE4.2 using Mortscript might help here although it won't run 100% correctly, The versions of WinCE5/6 vary greatly between devices, even if they appear the same, which doesn't help as Tomtom relies on WinCE dlls to work properly. When i get home from work i'll try to extract ALL the dlls from my Navman where Tomtom works 100%

After a bit more fiddling I've managed to make some progress, but still don't have a working solution. For reference I'm using the version of TomTom referenced in Fatboyfun's tutorial (that starts TomTom in French when maps aren't activated), and map 'Euorpe_2GB_850_2801', but I doubt this actually matters much.

Taking Fatboyfun's latest advise I loaded mortscript into the navigator folder along with setmem.exe and a file called TT7BOT.exe that I found in a separate download. I then created a mortscript containing the following:

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Errorlevel ("off")

Delete ("\SDMMC\Europe_2GB_850_2801\MapSettings.cfg")
sleep 100

Delete ("\SDMMC\Navigator\CurrentMap.dat")
Delete ("\SDMMC\Navigator\UserPatch.dat")
sleep 100

XCopy("\SDMMC\Navigator\MapSettings\*.*","\SDMMC\Europe_2GB_850_2801\")
sleep 100

SET SETMEM, "\SDMMC\Navigator\SetMem.exe"

Run (%SETMEM%, "70000")
sleep 100

RunWait ("\SDMMC\Navigator\TTN7BOT.EXE")
sleep 100

Exit

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When running the mortscript I am now able to get TomTom to load and have been able to change the settings to English, locate my home etc. etc. and exit the application to create a new mapsettings.cfg (which I saved before adding the part about deleting it in the script above). I then configured the GPS to the correct baud and port and managed to get a satelite lock. However, within seconds of getting a lock, everything grinds to a halt and the program either locks up, or crashes with the "out of memory" error. Before the satelites lock I can use TomTom OK, including setting advanced routes and running a demo. I've even installed speedcams and 7-digit postcodes no problem. But as I say, it's still unusable as soon as I get a satelite lock.

I'm not convinced re-using a saved mapsettings.cfg file makes any difference, but have read in many threads this helps to get a working solution, hence why in the script.

I don't really understand the setmem.exe parameters. I've tried increasing and decreasing the value. Increasing it to 10000 seems to stop TomTom loading (get the out of memory error) and reducing to 6000 causes TomTom to hang on loading. 7000 and 8000 seem to get me to what I describe above.

Anyone have any suggestions?

When using mortscript you need to have a route in mapsettings.cfg before it loads, Set it all up again but don't set gps yet, do a prepare route to from anywhere to your home, Wait for it to create route then exit and copy mapsetting.cfg from the map folder and use that to copy back in, Mapsetting.cfg is where favourites and poi settings is stored so set those up beforehand.

Fatboyfun wrote:When using mortscript you need to have a route in mapsettings.cfg before it loads, Set it all up again but don't set gps yet, do a prepare route to from anywhere to your home, Wait for it to create route then exit and copy mapsetting.cfg from the map folder and use that to copy back in, Mapsetting.cfg is where favourites and poi settings is stored so set those up beforehand.

I have a route set in the mapsettings.cfg file. I made sure I did this before saving it.

I'll add that everytime you start tomtom there will be a route home set, ALWAYS turn off the device with a route in memory (ie, don't clear route) or something gets corrupted and you'll be doing the above again!
Also any new favourites will be lost everytime you restart tomtom. This is why i don't recommend tomtom on devices where you need to use mortscript.

I'll upload my tomtom+mortscript for wince4.2 in a bit, Give that a go, it includes a tutorial written by someone else, I'll quote from my tutorial that "not all devices can run tomtom" Sometimes it's not worth the hassle.