Thankyou for your reply, I am very new to computers and forums to say the least, I dont just post questions on here without looking through the forums, I do spend alot of time searching through, and I'm not saying that the questions haven't already been asked before ,I dare say they have? I see your a modorator and know this site like the back of your hand, where as I do not, If you say you are spoon feeding me, well you need not reply after all it is a friendly helpful forum and I congratulate tendriver because he has been most helpful in which case I will donate money to this site to help towards its running costs. I do not wish for a sarcastic answer and I have no way intended on such a reply. It is not any way a means of income. I am at home with no legs as I lost them in a accident and just doing it for my old workmates as I cannot work anymore, but I do not wish to burden you with my problems.