TomTom Rider 2ND edition. What would you advise?

Hello,

My friend asked me if I could upgrade his TomTom Rider 2ND edition (N14644).
It's in original state (NavCore 7.9 + 3 years old map).

A.
With the enormous amount of navcores available here I feel a bit lost wich one to choose.
9.205 seems to get mentioned alot in combination with the Rider, is it also suited for the Rider 2ND Edition?

B.
I would like to use a 4GB SDHC-card, but current bootloader doesnt support SDHC. Wich bootloader would you recommend?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.

RJ45 wrote:Hello,

My friend asked me if I could upgrade his TomTom Rider 2ND edition (N14644).
It's in original state (NavCore 7.9 + 3 years old map).

A.
With the enormous amount of navcores available here I feel a bit lost wich one to choose.
9.205 seems to get mentioned alot in combination with the Rider, is it also suited for the Rider 2ND Edition?

B.
I would like to use a 4GB SDHC-card, but current bootloader doesnt support SDHC. Wich bootloader would you recommend?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this.

A. 9.205 gets mentioned alot in combination with the Rider, because it is the current navcore for the rider 3.
Go here: V8 & V9 Navcores Download the 9.205 .cab.
Go here: [Please Register or Login to download file] Download these pre-patched files.
Go here: FastActivate read the instructions carefully & downlad FastActivate..
Copy the system file (bootloader) from the 9.205 cab onto the current card & boot the R2. Now it will accept the SDHC card.
Copy everything, except the map, from the old card to the new one.
Copy the 9.205 to the new card, overwriting any common files.
Copy the pre-patched files to the card, overwriting common files.
Copy a new map of your choice to the card.
Copy FastActivate to the card & patch the map, per the instructions.
Boot the unit with the new card in it.

Thanks for your comprehensive answer!

After the upgrade procedure as you describe, I will report back with the results.
I 've upgraded a couple of old ONE's, but unfamiliar with this Ridertype, therefore carefull.

Hello,

As promised, back with the results:

The upgrading of the bootloader: piece of cake.

The new NavCore doesn't function at the moment.
What I have done so far:

- Followed the steps exactly as provided by Tendriver.
At powerup the TT then asked for the language, clockstyle, etc. but after choosing the voice the TT freezes and reboots, after wich it asks for the language again.

- Erased card, done it again, but didn't put a map on it. Then the TT passes the choosing of the voice and stays in the screen "no maps found". The TT then freezes after pressing the powerbutton, while displaying the anti-theftscreen. Then it reboots, asking for language, etc.

- Reset the device, by pressing the resetbutton for 30 sec. Ran clearflashtool 3 times. Then whole upgrade again.

- Removed currentmap.dat from the "fresh-made" SDcard.

- Installed the navcore files from the CAB + patched TTSYSTEM & PNDNavigator on a clean card. Both with and without patched map.

Result is always the same, freezing and rebooting unit. Done numerous hard resets in between steps. (30sec resetbutton)
The old navcore still works.

tendriver wrote:Copy the 9.205 to the new card, overwriting any common files.

I assumed this means extracting all files from the .CAB with, for example, WinRAR and writing them to the SDcard. To be precise, I extracted the files to a folder on my PC, to work with them more easy.

Any ideas on this?

Thanks in advance for any help.

RJ45 wrote:Hello,

As promised, back with the results:

1. The upgrading of the bootloader: piece of cake.

The new NavCore doesn't function at the moment.
What I have done so far:

- Followed the steps exactly as provided by Tendriver.
2. At powerup the TT then asked for the language, clockstyle, etc. but after choosing the voice the TT freezes and reboots, after wich it asks for the language again.

3. Erased card, done it again, but didn't put a map on it. Then the TT passes the choosing of the voice and stays in the screen "no maps found". The TT then freezes after pressing the powerbutton, while displaying the anti-theftscreen. Then it reboots, asking for language, etc.

4. Reset the device, by pressing the resetbutton for 30 sec. Ran clearflashtool 3 times. Then whole upgrade again.

5. Removed currentmap.dat from the "fresh-made" SDcard.

6. Installed the navcore files from the CAB + patched TTSYSTEM & PNDNavigator on a clean card. Both with and without patched map.

Result is always the same, freezing and rebooting unit. Done numerous hard resets in between steps. (30sec resetbutton)
The old navcore still works.


7. I assumed this means extracting all files from the .CAB with, for example, WinRAR and writing them to the SDcard. To be precise, I extracted the files to a folder on my PC, to work with them more easy.

Any ideas on this?

Thanks in advance for any help.

1. Great!!
2. Voice?? So, you really didn't follow the steps exactly as provided by Tendriver. What voice??
3. A unit will not fully boot without a map.
4. No harm done.
5. OK
6. No harm done.
7. Correct. I don't see any logic to the PC folder, but again no harm done.

As promised, you should have reported the results after point 2.

However I did the procedure exactly as you described, forgot to describe 1 situation. My inaccuracy.
The first time the unit booted, with the new navcore + an "old" 865 Europe map (patched with fastactivate) the infamous "You can not use this map with... etc" appeared.
Not sure wich step I did then, they are not necessarilly, but almost in chronological order.

For some reason I 'm stuck now with a not complete booting unit.

Suppose the new starting point is a TTRider2 with a clean SD card, what steps to take?

Thanks for your time again.

RJ45 wrote:However I did the procedure exactly as you described, forgot to describe 1 situation. My inaccuracy.
The first time the unit booted, with the new navcore + an "old" 865 Europe map (patched with fastactivate) the infamous "You can not use this map with... etc" appeared.
Not sure wich step I did then, they are not necessarilly, but almost in chronological order.

For some reason I 'm stuck now with a not complete booting unit.

Suppose the new starting point is a TTRider2 with a clean SD card, what steps to take?

Thanks for your time again.

Take a look at Navcore Version 9.400 that came out today. It is for a hand full of devices including the Rider 2

Take a look at Navcore Version 9.400 that came out today. It is for a hand full of devices including the Rider 2

I can't see the Rider2 in the list.
TTHome doesnt offer it, when the Rider2 is connected.
The 9.400 CAB wich TTHome downloaded for another device, doesnt function on the Rider2, patched or not, the Rider2 freezes at bootscreen. (not a big surprise to me)

Therefore I 'd tend to say that the NC 9.400 is NOT usable on a Rider2.

The famous NC 8.412 SE runs on the Rider2, but I am not sure if it will support all hardware right. (e.g. I don't have the headset here to test)

Has someone NC 9.205 succesfull running om a Rider2 at all?
It only freezes in the Rider2 I have here, but why would that (on earth) be different on another Rider2?

---------------
[TomTomGo]
DeviceName=TomTom RIDER
DeviceVersionHW=RIDER
DeviceSerialNumber=KxxxxxBxxxxx
DeviceUniqueID=AKxSG DxJVA
RamDiskVersion=20120201
BootLoaderVersion=55250
LinuxVersion=802398
ApplicationVersionVersionNumber=9400
ApplicationVersion=851694.2
UserLanguage=English UK
UserName=
LastConnectionTime=Never
GPSFirmwareVersion=GSW3.2.4TT_3.1.00.12-C35B1.02
----------------

Any help is welcome.

RJ45 wrote:1. I can't see the Rider2 in the list.
TTHome doesnt offer it, when the Rider2 is connected.
The 9.400 CAB wich TTHome downloaded for another device, doesnt function on the Rider2, patched or not, the Rider2 freezes at bootscreen. (not a big surprise to me)

Therefore I 'd tend to say that the NC 9.400 is NOT usable on a Rider2.

The famous NC 8.412 SE runs on the Rider2, but I am not sure if it will support all hardware right. (e.g. I don't have the headset here to test)

2. Has someone NC 9.205 succesfull running om a Rider2 at all?
It only freezes in the Rider2 I have here, but why would that (on earth) be different on another Rider2?

1. My apologies. Rider 2 was removed from the 9.400 list a day or 2 after it was released.

2. Since 9.205 is a 32MB Rider NC, you just need [url]http://download.tomtom.com/sweet/navcore/9.205.rider3.CAB-navcore-RIDER.cab [/URL]& these 2 prepatched files. [Please Register or Login to download file]

tendriver wrote:2. Since 9.205 is a 32MB Rider NC, you just need [Please Register or Login to download file] & these 2 prepatched files. [Please Register or Login to download file]

NT

Hello
I folloved your instructions for Rider2nd edition and result is:

[TomTomGo]
DeviceName=TomTom RIDER
DeviceVersionHW=RIDER
DeviceSerialNumber=************
DeviceUniqueID=********
RamDiskVersion=20100702
BootLoaderVersion=55250
LinuxVersion=547200
ApplicationVersionVersionNumber=9205
ApplicationVersion=547817.1
UserLanguage=English UK
UserName=
LastConnectionTime=Never
CurrentMap=
CurrentMapVersion=0.0

All is OK but none of the map suitable for this version does not start.
I tried new zealand 885.4004 but Rider says: You cannot use this map on this device:New_Zealand-506 pna
I also tried with a Europe 880.3811 map, which worked on the previous navcore version(original), but does not work now.

Help please!

Same results here, I was only able to use Navcore 8.41 on my Rider 2 (only if you don't need to use scala bluetooth), none of the new ones seems to work.

ferdoX wrote:Same results here, I was only able to use Navcore 8.41 on my Rider 2 (only if you don't need to use scala bluetooth), none of the new ones seems to work.

Confirm you used the links in post 9 point 2.

Hi tendriver,

always the newbies....
i'm also one of them and i will start slowly:
same target like RJ45 but don't really interested in SDHC, i'm good with normal SD. Do i need these 2 prepatched files also then?
And btw. where to download, the link to 2shared.com is dead?
thanks for a request
(i know it's an old thread)
bye

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