[Discussion] Truck Navcore 9.700/9.701 and current map   

Postby pucci463 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:48 pm

No problem , Gez ....
But the point is still open.
I do really use it but double check the route comparing with same start/arrive planned as car.
Seems to me I'm not the only person with this problem and may be next 9.7xx will fix it ( or a new map?).
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Postby tendriver » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:21 pm

pucci463 wrote:I do really use it but double check the route comparing with same start/arrive planned as car.


What are you trying to accomplish by doing this? It is like comparing APPLES & ORANGES!!!
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Postby pucci463 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:22 pm

Yes,
but when apples are too much bigger then oranges, then a second check could be advisable...
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Postby tendriver » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:41 am

pucci463 wrote:Yes,
but when apples are too much bigger then oranges, then a second check could be advisable...


You can do all of the second checks that you want to. They will all be totally irrelevant, worthless & useless. 2 different sets of parameters are used for these 2 totally different vehicles. If comparing APPLES & ORANGES doesn't work for you, then how about comparing ELEPHANTS & ANTS???
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Postby pucci463 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:30 am

Not sure if this discussion is useful to somebody or not, but make a last try.

Planning a route from A to B ( A=45/28/47.34;9/13/30.27 B=45/28/51.21;9/14/26.00 of course deg/min/sec.)
--BUS (=camper 3,5t ; 6,9long ; 3,05 high ; 2,4 width in meters) 2,8 KM and 9:50 minutes trip
--CAR 1,5KM and 3:35 minutes trip
--TRUCK at max dimensions (except 3,9 high because there is a bridge at 4 mt.) SAME AS CAR and this is correct because there are no limitations.

Of course if I put hugh>4 mt no route found in all cases also the wrong track has a 4 mt. bridge).
More: if you move A toward B at a given point (some 100 mt.) also BUS keeps the right track.

Now - may be - you can understand my point.
Tryed to play with map correction but without success.

A.

WAIT A MOMENT !!!!!!
Made another move: asked to find an alternative track. MIRACLE : now finds the right track shorter and faster !!!!!

My conclusion: the problem is within 9.700 and not the map.
A.

Both elephant and ants eat apples and oranges....
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Postby Downunder35m » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:45 am

Even though you can use coordinates to plan and navigate, I can not recommend it.
The database uses an address or point on a road to calculate.
If you use coordinates there is always a chance TT interpretes them as "off road" and needs to jump to the nearest know address.
This in return can and will cause planning problems.
Also for a bus the route calculation differs as most busses are not capable of turns like a car or even truck.
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Postby pucci463 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:51 pm

No, no, no ....
I made my road based on address, sent the coordinates just for an easier test of what I'm saying.
Perhaps you didn't read my previous message completely: same start and end have been used for car, bus and truck.
Not only: when asked for an alternate track for bus (after the "wrong" result), TomTom planned the right track which btw is the same for the three alternatives.
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Postby Downunder35m » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:00 pm

Seems to be a glitch, question is, if it is the map or the NC.
Is it a real problem for you or just a result from tests?
And do you need car, truck or bus routing?
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Postby tendriver » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:02 pm

pucci463 wrote:1. Not sure if this discussion is useful to somebody or not, but make a last try.
2. Now - may be - you can understand my point.
3. My conclusion: the problem is within 9.700 and not the map.


1. It is useful to a point, if members read this and learn what not to do.
2. I understand that you are more concerned with forcing the device to do what you want it to, rather than let it do what it is designed to do.
3. My conclusion: The problem is neither navcore 9.700 nor Europe TRUCK 905.4798. It is misuse by the operator. As the old computer saying goes, "Garbage In, Garbage out".
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Postby pucci463 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:27 pm

Downunder35m wrote:Seems to be a glitch, question is, if it is the map or the NC.
Is it a real problem for you or just a result from tests?
And do you need car, truck or bus routing?


As I said, my conclusion is for a glitch inside NC.
This is not the only wrong planning I got: as a result I cannot (anymore) blindly rely on TomTom as I did before.
My use is for BUS with dimensions of my camper (seems to be the best alternative since in many towns Trucks are not allowed).

Have a question for you as an expert: browsing the net I have seen images from TomTom showing a sort of wrap up of the limitations of a road (eg. max height xx, max load yyyy etc.) and also special info like transporting dangerous materials). How can I see it.?
Tks a lot.
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Postby m3cab » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:33 am

Which version did you blindly rely on tomtom?
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Postby pucci463 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:24 am

"Blindly" never. The old 8.3xx were more reliable.
The problem here is that map 905 runs only on 9.xxx NC version.
Better to be prepared.
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Postby tendriver » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:04 pm

pucci463 wrote:"Blindly" never


Blindly is your word choice, not m3cab's.

Quote: This is not the only wrong planning I got: as a result I cannot (anymore) blindly rely on TomTom as I did before.

You keep referring to the "wrong" this & that. The only thing I see wrong, is your flawed method of determining right & wrong.
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Postby nomad71 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:33 pm

GetMy-CFG v2.53
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DeviceID=
DeviceVersionHW=GO 550 LIVE
DeviceSerialNumber=

ApplicationVersionVersionNumber=9700
TTSystem 2303860 bytes, modified 02/01/2013 05:37
PNDNavigator 8273324 bytes, modified 02/01/2013 05:37
BootLoaderVersion=55277
RDS/TMC 'mctx.dat' size 44 bytes
CurrentMap=Europe_TRUCK_901_4683
CurrentMapVersion=901.4683

DSA emulation mode=25-GOx30;25-GO

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Postby tendriver » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:50 pm

nomad71

Do you have a question or comment??
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