Yes I agree with that bur because I have seen this on https://www.tomtom.com/nl_nl/drive/maps-services/shop/travel-map/europe/ that's why I had this in my mind maybe I had to look in TomTom Home

Well, it is odd.

PwNzZx50 wrote:This question might be stupid, but how is it possible that the Europian 970 version is available and on the tomtom site oly the 965 version. Is there maybe an explanation for it?

Razorblatter wrote:No, mainly because your statement is not valid.
TomTom does offer 970 maps. I've seen it on two accounts and I've seen e-mails detailing this.
Other then that: It's the normal schedule of releasing maps. Feb, May, Aug and Nov. Nothing new, nothing surprising.

PwNzZx50's statement is quite valid!! Below is copied direct from TT.com.

Map of USA
Drive with the latest map
•99% road coverage
•Includes millions of restaurants, hotels and other Points of Interest
•Includes local speed limits
•Map version 9.65

NO, I don't have an answer, other than they are slow updating their website.

That may be, but I have seen that TomTom Home offers v970 maps.

Quite stupid that the updated online map shop (which is not very comfortable to use in this new version) is quoting outdated data.
Whatever may be the case, the v970 maps are to be obtained, from TT and are not a product of zealous TT map addicts.

Low-Level Europe_East_970_7468/90/92 (39 Countries - same as 965_7252/80/81/82 release) = 1.74GB:
Albania, Austria, Belarus, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Kosovo, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Malta, Moldova, Montenegro, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine and Vatican City.

Low-Level Europe_West_970_7468/90/92 (17 Countries - same as 965_7252/80/81/82 release) = 1.30GB:
Andorra, Belgium, France, Gibraltar, Ireland, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Portugal, San Marino, Spain, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Vatican City

Low-Level Europe_North_970_7468/90/92 (15 Countries - same as 965_7252/80/81/82 release) = 1.36GB:
Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom

Low-Level Europe_Central/Central_Europe_970_7468/90/92 (19 Countries - same as 965_7252/80/81/82 release) = 944MB:
Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Poland, San Marino, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland and Vatican City


High-Level Europe_East_970_7466 (27 Countries - same as 965_7250/83 release) = 765MB:
Albania, Austria, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, Greece, Hungary, Kosovo, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Poland, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Turkey, Ukraine and Vatican City.

High-Level Europe_West_970_7466 (11 Countries - same as 965_7250/83 release) = 1.12GB:
Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Ireland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, United Kingdom, Switzerland
In addition: the Canary Islands, Azores and Madeira

High-Level Western_Europe_970_7466 (23 countries, coverage not changed) = 1.85GB:
Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Ireland, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom and Vatican City. In addition: the Canary Islands, Azores and Madeira

High-Level Europe_North_970_7466 (14 Countries - same as 965_7250/83 release) = 932MB:
Belgium, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Ireland, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Russia, Sweden, United Kingdom

High-Level Europe_Central_940_7466 (17 Countries - same as 965_7250/83 release) = 1.0GB:
Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, San Marino, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland and Vatican City



Credit Alfred_ML for some of the info

https://en.discussions.tomtom.com/news-and-announcements-37/new-maps-v970-available-for-download-1003248/index1.html Please have a look

Low-Level Europe_1GB_West_970_7490 (7 Countries, coverage not changed, based on Europe_1GB_West_966_7443) = 454MB
Belgium, France, Ireland, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, United Kingdom

Low-Level Western_Europe_1GB_970_7490 (23 countries, coverage not changed) = 1.18GB
Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Ireland, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom and Vatican City. In addition: the Canary Islands, Azores and Madeira

Low-Level Europe_1GB_North_970_7490 (8 Countries, coverage not changed, based on Europe_1GB_North_966_7443) = 450MB:
Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden

Low-Level Europe_1GB_South_970_7490 (11 Countries, new coverage, missing France and Monaco) = 377MB:
Andorra, Austria, Gibraltar, Italy, Liechtenstein, Malta, Portugal, San Marino, Spain, Switzerland, Vatican City



Credit Alfred_ML for some of the info

Low-Level Central_and_Eastern_Europe_970_7490 (31 Countries, coverage not changed, same as 965_7280 release) = 919MB:
Albania, Austria, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Kosovo, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Macedonia, Malta, Moldova, Montenegro, Poland, Romania, Russian Federation, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland, Ukraine, Vatican City

Low-Level Central_Europe_East_970_7490 (6 Countries, coverage not changed, same as 965_7280 release) = 150MB:
Austria, Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia

Low-Level Central_Europe_West_970_7490 (5 Countries, coverage not changed, same as 965_7280 release) = 324MB:
Belgium, France, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands

Low-Level Central_Europe_North_970_7490 (7 Countries, coverage not changed, same as 965_7280 release) = 358MB:
Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Germany, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland

Low-Level Central_Europe_South_970_7490 (10 Countries, coverage not changed, same as 965_7280 release) = 288MB:
Austria, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Malta, San Marino, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland, Vatican City



Credit Alfred_ML for some of the info

It is quite impossible to understand why they've chopped up the high level maps (ALG, IQ Routes and/or CSpeech, ASR) into these often unpracticle maps. Yes, the maps were growing and were getting quite near the 2 gb but the current situation (v965 and 970) worsens the usefullness of the maps in a lot of cases. In some cases you can suffice with adding a map like France or Iberia but in other cases you will need to change map zones in their entirity if you are making long travels.

In my mind, TT is chasing their old customers away in the direction of new models or into the arms of the competition.

Well,

I'd rather go for an option #2. I must admit, I've been using TT, can't even remember the time exactly, but it were the times when 8xx were out, so quite a time already.

Cannot seem to find it again, but it looks that big Europe map has been broken down into 4 or 5 major regions and those have been fragmented into even more subregions. Not sure why, but if they put a 'starter pack' equipped with 1GB out, this 'semiclassing' would totally make sense...

Not sure about who would buy a device with a single purpose though... I must admit, it still feels right like in the old days putting my one IQ routes on the windshield and steer upon instructions, but not sure if this is sustainable... been using/trying couple of satnav in mobile OS (iOS/Android), but neither one is perfect or expected to be perfect enough to be the 'first knight' as one would expect. Either the developer of app relies too much on a map provider(i.e. TomTom) or they navigation algorithm just is not right...

I guess, I need to compare how much of new maps 965+ have been cut down just to fit to newer devices... Or should I check an auction site and try to find for an old One with SD card and stop bothering? .)

An sd-card solution is always the most comfortable one.
But you can also buy a new LTM device. But make sure it contains all countries you need. TT is also selling LTM devices with European countries but without Eastern Europe.
Today I heard about a Start 25 device bought in Germany that even did not contain Iberia. It only contained 19 countries. Well, that sure ruins your LTM experience.

Any chance to get latest map for Truck. I know it's out but I can't find that. Thank you.

If it ain't there it aint there. Just take v965: available and meta code.

Elixir4 wrote:Any chance to get latest map for Truck. I know it's out but I can't find that. Thank you. :023:

It's not even out on the TomTom website, so doubt it.