Foehn and Birsch - which software?

Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:41 pm

I have come across a F&H which has not been used for some time.

Someone has obviously tried to get TT working on it and it isn't very successful.

It has a 1gb sd card at the mo. will that be enough to get a UK satnav up and running?

Which system would you suggest and which is the easiest to install.

Thanks

Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:02 pm

I would suggest iGO Primo, comparable to TomTom and easy to install.

http://www.navitotal.com/forums/showthread.php?6952-Primo-1.2-Build-9.2.0.192885-May-20-2011

The UK map can be found in the iGO section.
(or here : http://www.navitotal.com/forums/showthread.php?6824-UK-amp-ROI-Content-pack.&highlight=navteq)

Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:38 pm

A 1GB card is more than enough for software and UK maps, Is there a model number for the F&H?

Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:12 pm

There doesn't seem to be a model number but it is abour 15 months old and isn't the current model - sorry that probably doesn't help much!

Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:41 pm

It was all going so well!

I downloaded
Primo 1.2 Build 9.2.0.192885 May 20 2011

winrared it onto my pc hard drive, opened up the primo folder and copied the folders and files onto the root of my sd card -

content
license
ttnua v5
UI
util
BRABDING
DATA
gpstmc.dll
nnghal.dll
Primo
SYS
VAUTOV5.DLL

I then downloaded the UK & ROI Content pack.

Winrar'd that and copied the folders onto the root of the sd too.

Inserted into the F&H, pressed Navigation and .... nothing!

Anyone know what I am doing wrong please?

Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:30 am

The maps (extension .fbl) go into /content/map folder
Files with extension .POI in /content/POI
Files with extension .3dc and .3dl in /content/building
And so on:

Originally Posted by PedroDaGr8
OK igo8 is very picky about how you structure things. You don't HAVE to have all of these, and I think it is obvious what goes in what but I will explain it beneath each folder.Here is my folder structure:

StorageCard\igo8\content\building\
Your 3D building files go in this folder files ending in .3dc (3D building) and .3dl (3d Landmark)

StorageCard\igo8\content\dem\
Your terrain files go in here (.dem)

StorageCard\igo8\content\lang\
Language files go in here, these are for the text in the menus, not the voices. All files end in .zip and usually begin with Lang_filename.

StorageCard\igo8\content\map\
Your map files go in here, files have the .fbl extension, make sure you have iGo 2008 files not miomap 3.3 which have the poi's integrated in the files and won't work.

StorageCard\igo8\content\phoneme\
Phoneme files go here, they are used by TTS to improve pronunciation, files end in a .ph extension.

StorageCard\igo8\content\poi\
POI files go in here, these are what allow you to find Points of interest, without these you can't look for anything except addresses. Files contain the .poi extension.

StorageCard\igo8\content\scheme\
These files are what determine the colors of the roads and terrain in the map. Files are all .zip files.

StorageCard\igo8\content\skin
Skins to determine the look of the program. All files in this folder are .zip files.

StorageCard\igo8\content\speedcam\
Speedcam files go in here. I have one file in here SpeedcamUpdates.spud, others can chime in on what other types of files besides .spud files work.

StorageCard\igo8\content\texture\
This folder contains the arrows and stuff that appear on the map, like the moving right arrow for right turns. All files are .tex.

StorageCard\igo8\content\userdata
Where iGo stores all sorts of user data like saved routes etc.

StorageCard\igo8\content\voice\
Voice files go in here, both TTS and non-TTS. All files are zips, though TTS requires extra dll's to make it work.

Primo has the same file structure.

When you press the navigation button, a script starts. Was there a navigation program on the original sd? Then take a closer look and search the executable. Then reorganize your file structure the same way and use the same names for folders and exe file.
Example:
When the original executable was called MobileNavigator.exe and placed in a folder called MobileNavigator, thus the path the script uses would be /StorageCard/MobileNavigator/MobileNavigator.exe or likewise.
The way your program is organized would look like /StorageCard/iGO/iGO.exe
So you simply fool the script by renaming the iGO or Primo folder to MobileNavigator and the iGO.exe file to MobileNavigator.exe
(same spelling and capitals as the original!!)

Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:08 am

Thanks nabi, I moved all the files into the correct locations but still nothing.

The original sd card's root contained folders called

mobilenavigator
voices
Western Europe
and a file called
ttnavigator.bif

Inside the folder are several folders and the following files

BtcoreIf.dll
BtSdkCE30.dll
CurrentMap
data.chk
mobilenavigator
navigator
note_prj.dll
pluserror
Setup.dll
ttn6bt2003.dll
TTtoday.dll
UserPatch

Thanks

Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:46 am

Confirm that on the (new) SD card you have a folder called mobilenavigator and that ALL files and folders for Primo are moved into that folder.
Then confirm that you rename Primo.exe (within the mobilenavigator Folder) to mobilenavigator.exe.
Then try it from your menu.
If it still does not work, rename mobilenavigator.exe to navigator.exe and then try that---it's hard to tell from your list of files which is the actual *.exe file that starts the navigation program.

It would be helpful if you enabled "Show all file extensions" in your File Explorer---otherwise you might end up with "mobilenavigator.exe.exe", which will not work either.

Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:12 am

Still not got it, BUT, may have found a clue - I change PRIMO to navigator and pressed on the Naviagtion button and the timer started running as though it was trying to start - it then brought up an error box saying "User interface resolution ( 320x240) is not supported or compatible skin can not be found.

Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:34 am

Have a look in data.zip to see what resolutions are there.
Best copy data.zip elsewhere (on your PC), unzip and see what resolution folders are in data.zip.

Also, test your resolution. All info you find in this post: http://www.navitotal.com/forums/showthread.php?909-Double-din-2Din-GPS-How-to-install-thread. Scroll down a bit to Before you start downloading

Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:40 am

crazychick wrote:"User interface resolution ( 320x240) is not supported or compatible skin can not be found.

Correct error. That version of Primo only supports 480x272 and 800x480 natively. No support for smaller resolutions. Your options at this point are to:
1) Find a (customized) data.zip file for Primo 1.2 that supports your resolution
2) Try a different version of iGo/Primo that supports 320x240---that is a relatively 'old' PDA-type resolution.

But at least, no matter what you do with iGo/Primo, you have learned how to setup the program for your navigation menu----that's something!